Friday, February 11, 2011

Prove the Bible without The Bible.


Here is a challenge to everyone out there. Prove the Bible without the Bible.
Not so simple is it?

The scientific method is a honed and perfected process that deliverers measurable results, proper, logical interpretation and consistent evaluation of data.
It is a process that when boiled down asks this. Prove your point, but prove your point with something that is directly related to but not specifically That which is Your Point.

Biblical logic (I won't go into Koranic as it is a mindless quagmire of contradiction) states this.
The Bible is Correct. But how is it Correct? Because the Bible Tells me So.
But how do you know it's real without an outside interpretation of those documents?
Because the Bible is right. Now stop asking questions and believe.

This is the circular logic fallacy of Religion.
Religion refuses to question itself. It claims   it does. I've been in many a Synagogue where they claim they are questioning their Religion. This is false.
Judaism is an interesting faith structure. Frankly, I really don't think I've met a Jew (other than Orthodox or Ascetic) who really believes in an intervening God. The religion is so haughty intellectual and esoteric, that it goes beyond a faith into some sort of quasi metaphysical science that really is hard to follow if one was not used to it.
Hell, a good chuck of Rabbi's get into the lucrative Kosher Gig. You drive by a truck full of kosher food, do a drive by blessing and you just made a good 20 Grand.

I might don a yarmulke and go l'chaim!!!!

But i digress. They CLAIM to question their faith but really they put up scripted questions to their Rabbi ho responds with scripted answers. God moves in mysterious ways was what I heard a lot growing up.
In churches the smiling Priest would give similar answers. At the occasional mosque I attended as a guest, The Question and Answer was usually nonexistent and a whole lot of angry demands of penance or hellfire awaits those who disagree with Allah. Asalam M'lakum!Allah hu Akbar indeed. No. God is not great but again, I digress.

To question faith, to really put it under the microscope of the scientific method, faith dies. it is destroyed. It ends in glorious oblivion along side any fairytale.
So, like I ask so many times, why don't people demand answers, real answers regardless of the Bible claiming itself absolute?

The Scientific Method Vs The Other Guy's


For me to accept the Bible as fact i need corroborating evidence that is NOT the bible but related to directly or otherwise to the bible and its claims.

Go to this link with a more comprehensive breakdown of the Scientific Method Vs Faith.

Faith Vs The Scientific Method

 Example. This is Green. My Spectrograph says it's Green, My Colour Chart Created to Associate with similar colours matches the green. When digitized the computer interprets the hexadecimal value as Green. I have other individuals attesting to it being Green. So I can now say, THIS is Green.
If you make a claim, YOU MUST support it with factual and logical information.
Saying, You just gotta believe, is Garbage.

So when I say, prove the Bible is Real, without the Bible. Good chance is you can't.
A great example is peoples obsession with finding Noah's Ark. They claim it rests on Mount Ararat, buried under debris many many tens of metres deep.
Biblical Archaeologists (Pseudo Scientists the lot of them) will interpret partial data and data mine the work of other real scientists to give proof that the sonar image under the ground is that of an Ark.
Now, forgoing the obvious questions of how did it support all those animals, and how did all the worlds animals get there etc etc etc, one has to first question the data and means in which they gathered the data.
In the end, they use the Bible To Corroborate  the Bible.
This is Bullshit.
I can go on and on but I think you get the point.

My last comment is in regards to the End of World Prophecy of May 21, 2011.
I had the fortune or misfortune to speak to one of the actual individuals who calculated these endtime predictions. 
Please, if you are on Facebook, take a look here.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Judgement-day-may-21-2011/172321066135387

I openly asked him, How did you come to this truth?
He said through careful calculations related to bible verses, chapters etc etc.
I then asked him, what version of the bible? Then I asked him what numerical system did you use? Did you recalculate to Lunar Calendar or the calendar at that time which disregarded leap years over a regular, non celestial calendar?
Of course he couldn't answer any of these things correctly. He did say they corrected for lunar cycles without taking into account Earth Wobble or changes in the Moons orbit (which changes slightly over time much like Earth's orbit)
Then I asked which numerical system did you base your calculations on?
Did you convert for the lack of 0 in the old system? Did you adjust for the different calculation system? No he stupidly and ignorantly said God made one than two than three than four etc etc.

This is where his system failed. I questioned, using techniques and tools that, going outside what he wants to prove, question the hypothesis and it all falls apart.
A scientist or a logical person would say, I wonder if this is true or not? How can I find out? A religious person would say This is FACT, but you have to believe me.
A scientist will look into both sides of the matter, eliminating evidence and information until the only answer is available.
Religion predetermines the answer and contorts all other information to suit it.
Similar to the now popular amongst Creationists Macro-Evolution VS Micro-Evolution. It's the same thing yet they separate the two to account for observable variations among animals but do NOT accept any data that proves the Macro-evolution.
They refuse it because it openly contradicts what they believe. Which is inherently wrong simple because it refuses to be accountable for itself!
Hence when I say,
PROVE THE BIBLE WITHOUT THE BIBLE. You can't.

On a side note the guy who thinks the world is coming to an End on May 21 just told me Zombies will rise on the day or reckoning with great Earthquakes.
Great, God now sends a Zombie Apocalypse.... And he expects me to worship him? yesh....

Your Prophet, Jephri







Wednesday, February 9, 2011

Reasonable Probability the Long Version

There is no God.
Unlike Nitchze's statement, God is not dead for one must be alive to be dead.
Why make such a bold statement?
There is no God.

One can spend hours and hours debating the semantics and philosophy of "god". We can throw proof, and evidence but it will never be enough to convince the most devout, most righteous. Or... maybe not?

I have a  personal story I would like to share. I will not name names as it would damage her life.

I met a girl, probably 24 on the internet in Orkut. I was probably 22 or 23. Hot headed and argumentative, I engaged her in a debate on the Koran. By that time I had read and studied Islam for 5 years. I, thinking myself an expert on the subject (I guess I was considering how few people actually read their holy books) started talking to a few people.

Many were Islamists. Angry, not very articulate. Mean spirited. I never engaged them in the vitriol they spewed. The hate in which their religion worked. One girl though was more patient and interested in learning about Reasonable Probability. I explained it closely, using scientific facts but mostly following logical processes. After maybe three weeks she asked to meet. I was weary. Muslims have a component of their Jihad called the "al-Taqiyya" This roughly translates into "Hiding ones motives or strategies when faced with an enemy. Deceive your intention. Hide all emotion and fear." Something like that. My Arabic is rusty.

I was worried that I would become the next victim of the Religion of Peace.
I took precautions. I realized though that no matter what  I did, if someone wanted to harm you they would regardless of the population around you. Considering how many Muslims die at the hands of other Muslims, I was concerned. So I scoped out the area. I saw her go to the Starbucks and sit and wait. I looked around for suspicious looking people. Even double backed a few times.  Don't get me wrong, I'm a big guy. 230 lbs and I work out every other day. I've been equated to a "brick shit house" with a nice smile. Regardless I wanted to be safe.
I was 20 minutes late and walked in to meet a scared looking woman in a sari.
I introduced myself.
We talked for 4 hours. She kept asking about Reasonable Probability, science, evolution. I answered everything I knew at the time. I was young mind you. This was 8 years ago.
She wanted to leave her faith but was scared for what her family and brothers would do. I helped her out the best I could. Gave her information on shelters, etc. Today she's a successful woman, scorned by her parents and family, but because she married a nice white guy up north.
I'm happy for her.
All it took though was a simple conversation on probability and an exchange of ideas related to such. in the end, Faith is an easy concept to refute. Look here "http://prophetjephri.blogspot.com/2011/02/logical-fallacy-of-faith-and-why-pascal.html" on my "equation of Faith" to see that one can not argue from a point of nothingness, as it refutes itself.
This process is what kept us alive unconsciously throughout history. WE used tools like Patternicity to determine Win/Lose Fight or Flight scenarios on expenditure of energy.  Should I run from the bush rustling in the breeze? Maybe a predator hides? Michael Shermer does an amazing talk on this and other related phenomena regarding human interpretation of stimuli.
Michael Shermer

If you start to look at it, one can not wonder in amazement how we didn't see this sooner and cast off the shackles of faith.

Think of it like this;
Sure the universe could be pulled by Unicorns piloted by Panda Bears,but this is really unlikely. How far away from being unlikely is a God or an Angel? What is the difference between Aphrodite and the Arch Angel Michael? Or any other mythical creature from a similar counterpoint.
What is the difference between Hercules and Jesus?
Nothing. They are tales of fancy to create morality, governance, rule of law, explain the natural world, give hope, bring fear etc etc.
But the moment you question the relevance, the reality sets in. This is not real. There is NO reasonable Probability.

I mean, look at the ridiculousness of Scientology?
A false religion created for tax evasion? Written and designed by a hack writer and believed and followed by bored, too wealthy with too little brains Starlettes?
If you look at the history and story of Scientology it openly fails Reasonable Probability. Aliens and monsters and spirits oh my. Hubbard was famous for his rich orgies. Frankly I might join if the opportunity arises to be an Orgy guy. (just kidding)

Look at Christianity.
Adam and Eve etc etc. All fail Reasonable Probability. Even, like mentioned above, the story of Jesus fails basic critical analysis.
So why do people believe? Do they need to obsess over something out of their control? If you took out religion, nothing would change, we just wouldn't have something to blindly follow.
There is little in our life that is actually touched by religion but when it touches it hits hard.

I wish people could introduce the concept of Acceptable and Reasonable Probability into Schools. Teach children to question evidence and interpret it with logical process.

I wonder what the next millennium hold for us. I don't know if the world is or isn't ending on May 11, 2011 or Dec 21 2012. I do know the probability is pretty damn low and really, why should I worry if I can't change it anyway?

Just remember this folks, question everything. NEVER EVER be afraid to ask, what is the Reasonable Probability? You'll find things get easier and less complicated when you do.
Cheers



Tuesday, February 1, 2011

The Logical Fallacy of Faith and Why Pascal is an Idiot

Since I was a young pup, I always felt odd about faith.
My relatives would tell me to have faith. Just believe and all will come to you.
When I tried to apply reasoning and logic, the idea of faith crumbled like crackers into a soup.
It's not that faith was unappealing or belief in a supernatural creature stupid, it just didn't make sense.

The argument works out like this.

What is God?
He created the Universe.
Do you have proof?
No! But I have faith that he is watching over us.
But you don't know.
Sure I do.
How?
I have faith.

And so it goes in circular logic until someone just says "Ah Fuckit" and walks away.
I say, let's rationalize faith and see what it gets us.
The essence of faith, is to accept the unknowable, the unprovable.
It's akin in assuming that one can multiply by 0.

So if f = (E(0)) + Nf/P


Faith equals Evidence times Naught Plus Number of Followers Over Power

Simple.
Faith is only as powerful as the number of followers find it. No matter how you derive the equation, the only thing you are left with is either NO faith with No followers,  no evidence regardless or some quasi mash of lunacy.

For one to have faith, one MUST not believe.
CRAZY!!!!!
 If God was real, and Jesus and Mohammad and Angels and demons and etc etc then, one would not need faith but subservient devotion. Then there would need to be an accountability of the Creator and a demand for his time for your penance.
Even great dictators have to answer to their people right?
God moves in mysterious ways simply because most mysteries are nothing, God isn't real and to have faith, you must accept that God is not.

The driving force of faith is just that, the nothingness one can not prove directly.
I am an Atheist. I am not a fence sitting Agnostic. Unsure of what side to pick. I know simply because reason shows me. No faith, no belief. I look at the numbers.
I use statistics and probability. The probability of any number of gods from history being real is so close to infinite zero that I wouldn't even waste my time figuring out that probability scale.

What of Pascals Wager? 


Pascal's Wager is one of the easiest refutable arguments that religion throws at us. My argument simply is, regardless of being wrong, and the number of other thousands of gods out there, blindly worshiping a child like creator goes against the principles of democracy and my franchise.
Are we humans more enlightened then the Monster in the Old Testament and the Quran? Are we more civil than the torturer and guilt layer in the New Testament? Are we more Human than the child like Gods in Hinduism?
Pascal can have his waste of time walking around with a neck full of religious ornaments hoping to appease some flying Space Daddy. Not this guy. Not this Prophet!


For one to believe, one must first know in their heart that God is not real, and from that can they actually believe in something unprovable. Faith is a personal lie.
Faith is the mechanism to control and subjugate. Faith is the tool to instigate fear and make a profit. Faith is the last straw in a weak mind.

If God was real, we would not need faith, and God would not have the power he wields over so many sad people.

Pascal is a fool and there is No God.
But I think all of you knew that already. You were just too scared to think forward to the next step, that nothing, (including that flying Spaghetti Monster) can not exert power over you.
You are free, now go play.




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